YPOPs! Is No Longer Needed!

[mltno]

only problem is there is no pop/forwading tab on the left pane, and yes it is set to Yahoo Asia, the logo is right above part i missed

[gfmpop]

That's the new interface; have you tried switching to the classic interface? You should have the POP3 choice there, even if only to give you the option to purchase their "Plus" package (or have it tell you it's not available for sale).

Further information: The "Classic" options menu shown below may not be not available in new accounts...I just set up a brand new account for testing purposes (Yahoo USA), and even with "Classic" menus I get the new-style options menu, which does include the POP3 choice offering the $19.99 plus service. On this brand new account, the Asia workaround DOES NOT WORK - there is NO POP3 option at all with any other region selected (the opposite of what happens in the old account shown below)! And cutting and pasting the POP3 setup link from a working account generates the "not currently for sale" message. This is the only account (out of dozens) that I had a problem with (luckily it's a throwaway). Other accounts that worked fine were set up as recently as November - so I don't know what/where the cutoff might be.

Here are screen grabs from the options menu using the same (old) account set both ways (classic and new).

Classic Interface (the POP choice is always there):

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New Interface (the POP choice disappears when I switch back to Yahoo USA):

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[dbeusee]

Further information: The "Classic" options menu shown below may not be not available in new accounts...I just set up a brand new account for testing purposes (Yahoo USA), and even with "Classic" menus I get the new-style options menu, which does include the POP3 choice offering the $19.99 plus service. On this brand new account, the Asia workaround DOES NOT WORK - there is NO POP3 option at all with any other region selected (the opposite of what happens in the old account shown below)! And cutting and pasting the POP3 setup link from a working account generates the "not currently for sale" message. This is the only account (out of dozens) that I had a problem with (luckily it's a throwaway). Other accounts that worked fine were set up as recently as November - so I don't know what/where the cutoff might be.

Confirmed. Bummer. Well, time will tell what Yahoo's intent is, I suppose. I assume eventually all servers and accounts will behave the same.

For those people that created their yahoo account recently, they can probably dispose of the yahoo email and go with gmail or wait until ypops works again or use freepops. Probably ypops new IMAP approach won't work for these people either.

-Don

[towdesign]

Argh!!!!I did the Asia switch, did the pop3:pop.mail.yahoo.com ,smtp: smtp.mai.yahoo.com, ssl port 995 and sll port 465 with authentication and everything is worse. Of course I was not receiving any of my yahoo mail on OUTLOOK 2003 but now I receive email on my oldest yahoo address (many years ago), but cannot send at all! Strange when all this began I could always send with my oldest email but not receive. With all my other yahoo addresses neither receive or send. This was when the setting for pop3 and smtp were the usual 127.0.0.1

I get this error message:
Task 'Towdesign - Sending' reported error (0x800CCC0F) : 'The connection to the server was interrupted. If this problem continues, contact your server administrator or Internet service provider (ISP).'

All my new yahoo address get the pop up "Enter Network Password" screen that says:
Please type your user name and password.
All the entries in the pop up are correct.

I don't get it - if the Asia trick works for some why not my yahoo addresses. I can't get any of my yahoo addresses to work with both sending and receiving. This is really frustrating - been at this nearly all day!

[dbeusee]

Underneith "Outgoing server (SMTP): 465" is the setting "Use the following type of encrypted connection". It must be set to SSL. Do you have it set to this?

-Don

[mollysg]

I'm using Thunderbird & deleting the account & starting over is absolutely out of the question, too many unread emails & sub-folders to deal with.
This is driving me nuts, I didn't realize how dependent I had become on YPOPS!

[jedakay]

I believe there some informational pages in Thunderbird Help or Forum that show how to save profile file contents and later retrieve them. As far as Yahoo Asia goes, I was not getting anywhere with modifying profile settings in Thunderbird until I deleted them and then re-entered the new profile settings. Now, that is what worked for me but might not for you. If all you're new settings are correct and you still can't get Yahoo Asia mail through Thunderbird I'm inclined to believe your problem is the same I had.

[chrisretusn]

I'm using Thunderbird & deleting the account & starting over is absolutely out of the question, too many unread emails & sub-folders to deal with.

First I just tried changing my Yahoo account in Thunderbird from YPOPs setting to POP3 and SMTP settings. No problems what so ever. I simply changed the server and selected SSL which also changed the port to the correct ones for both POP3 and SMTP. Worked no problems, I did not have to delete the account and add it back.

Second. Deleting an account does not delete the messages in Thunderbird.

[towdesign]

This is my 2nd day at trying to hack this out: Argh!!!!I did the Asia switch, did the pop3:pop.mail.yahoo.com ,smtp: smtp.mai.yahoo.com, ssl port 995 and sll port 465 with authentication

This time i made sure that the ports have the ssl encription. for both the 995 & 465. Am i doing this right? I still get an error message.

I get this error message:
Task 'TowDesigns - Receiving' reported error (0x800CCC92) : 'Your e-mail server rejected your login. Verify your user name and password in your account properties. Under Tools, click E-mail accounts. The server responded: -ERR [SYS/PERM] pop not allowed for user.''

[towdesign]

Underneith "Outgoing server (SMTP): 465" is the setting "Use the following type of encrypted connection". It must be set to SSL. Do you have it set to this?

-Don

this is the error message after i made sure I have outoing server smtp 465 to SSL encryption


Task 'TowDesigns - Sending' reported error (0x800CCC7D) : 'Your outgoing (SMTP) server does not support SSL-secured connections. If SSL-secured connections have worked in the past, contact your server administrator or Internet service provider (ISP).'

I cannot receive nor send with this email. I get tons of pop up screen with the user name and password - all is correct but it wont go thru and send out any email.

[jedakay]

Did you activate POP within Yahoo Asia?!

[quanz]

Great info.. thx

I have a small issue.
I'd like to keep my messages on outlook express and on Yahoo server (Leave a copy of messages on server option checked), after sometimes I'll have to backup it to a external strorage (dvd) because of the bigger file size. Then I'll create a new identity to start over. The problem is when I start a new identity OE will download all the messages that I had backup before. If I leave the "Leave a copy of messages on server" unchecked, the OE will erase them on Yahoo server therefore I can't read them while I'm away from my computer.

Is there anyway to keep them both without have to download it all over again?

Please forgive my bad english

Thx for looking

[dbeusee]

towdesign, seems your region isn't supporting SSL or you are using it with the worng ports. Let's just turn off SSL for now. Then you should get back to the first error. You need to go into your yahoo account emai options and actually turn on POP3. It sounds like you switched to Asia ok, but didn't enable POP3 by checking that option under POP3 and forwarding. Please double-check this.

-Don

[cactuspat]

I got yahoo pop service working with the switch to yahoo asia, but the issue was doubly complicated by the fact I use Courier/Calypso as an email client. It doesn't have SSL so a side program called Stunnel was necessary.

Stunnel conflicts with ypops! so it was an interesting set-up to say the least. If you use Courier, here is the page for setting up SSL configuration with Stunnel.

In the end my Yahoo account (nine yrs. old) gets POP but not SMTP without SSL and does both with SSL (using the above mentioned Stunnel).

CP

PS I do want to encourage anujseth to continue ypops development because the Asia work-around may be only a temporary solution and the fact that many users with new Yahoo accounts still can't access via POP.

[jcuzens]

Hi Everyone,

Just thought I would share my experience with this "trick". I had to use slightly different settings than any of you! So don't be so quick to jump on people for not configuring their clients/accounts correctly!

Background system info: (not sure of the relevancy but it doesn't hurt)
Yahoo account since 2005
OS Vista Home Premium
Mcafee AV
ISP AT&T Uverse
Mail Client Windows Mail
Yahoo mail new interface

First off, I switched my profile to the Asia region as described in previous posts.

Second, went to my yahoo mail and saved settings to activate pop. (I tested forwarding to make sure that everything worked in my account before setting up POP)

Third, configured my mail client to use pop.mail.yahoo.com & smtp.mail.yahoo.com. Used my username without "@yahoo.com". Told the client to remember my password and did not check the log on Secure Password Authentication. Did check the box for "My server requires authentication" for outgoing mail server and selected the option to use same settings as incoming server.

Fourth, this was the really CONFUSING part for me: On the advanced tab I had use an outgoing mail SMTP port of 587 (maybe my isp blocks 25? 465 works fine with gmail) and DID NOT select the option for SSL. Changed the incoming port to 110 (the default) and did not use SSL again!

That is it! Both send and receive now working great! I have no idea why my port settings had to be so different (even different than what the yahoo instructions stated I should use) but everything is working great after a lot of playing to find the right setup for my account / system. Maybe it has something to do with the age of the accounts???

FYI, when troubleshooting to get the right settings I got an error that said something to the fact that the connection was unexpectedly terminated due to long period of inactivity or such.

Hope this helps someone!

~Justin